Elizabeth Byrne

But I suppose, almost from a moral perspective, the idea that older people being subjected to something like this is just really terrible.

Well, I think they're still sort of settling a bit.

I was pleased to hear John say, I can now sleep at night.

So there was enormous relief.

I presume they'll be going through a range of other emotions as time goes on, as we all do with grief.

And their grief has been very prolonged.

But so far, so good.

Well, we are still in the appeal window, but usually that doesn't stop a sentencing happening.

We're still looking for a date for sentencing.

We've had a couple of directions hearings, but that hasn't given us a result yet.

Perhaps next week we'll know that.

But that I expect to be the next thing.

At the end of the trial, the judge has ordered already what they call pre-sentence reports, where they go through each of the accused's personal circumstances and look for, you know, that's so they can establish whether a sentence should be more or less of the standard sentencing report.

So that process has already begun and that takes quite a few weeks to happen.

But we also haven't heard if anyone's planning to appeal.

And so there's quite a bit to go yet.

I'd be very surprised if this is over and done with by the end of the year.

Well, it's been my pleasure.

And this is a case I've sat on for so long.

I was very happy to see it resolved.