Elizabeth Day

So when I was in my 30s, it was a different economic climate.

And I do actually think that that has an impact.

So it was easier for my generation to get our first step on the property ladder.

And it is so fucking difficult for people now.

And I think, therefore, one of the knock-on effects of that, of not being able to own your own home until you're 85, is...

is that your sense of life stages has probably shifted a bit.

So maybe that's why there are more single people in their 30s now.

And I salute and applaud you.

I completely agree with you.

It took me...

I think it definitely took me until 39 to have a relationship that is fully functional, healthy, loving, accepting.

And that's partly because I don't think I knew myself until then.

And I had to be knocked around a bit by life.

And I had to be humbled by some of the things I went through.

And I had to think, oh, I failed here.

Why is that?

And be really honest with myself and

not pretend to be honest which I was doing for a long time yeah but be really stripped back and honest and thank goodness I went through that and thank goodness I went on a hinge date age 39 and met my husband and why do you guys work?

When I first met Justin, and we laugh about it now, but he is a big believer in pacing and appropriate pacing.

And I'd been very used to thinking romance was love bombing and narcissism.