Elizabeth Day

That is a measure of authenticity that only age and doing a podcast about failure really has brought me.

Because now, to go back right to what we were talking about at the beginning,

I feel so accepted by a community of people where I am able to show up as myself, as my deeply flawed self.

And that's been a revelation to me and something I'm forever grateful for.

Jamie, you know, that was one of your failures when you came on as fail.

I looked them up recently.

Your third failure was I'm 30 and I've still not had a successful long-term romantic relationship.

Was that it?

Yeah.

And I felt really moved and proud of you that now here we are five years later.

I totally agree.

I really think it's a good thing.

And I think as well, as I've mentioned, I'm 45.

So when I was in my 30s, it was a different economic climate.

And I do actually think that that has an impact.

So it was easier for my generation to get our first step on the property ladder.

And it is so fucking difficult for people now.

And I think, therefore, one of the knock-on effects of that, of not being able to own your own home until you're 85, is...

is that your sense of life stages has probably shifted a bit.

So maybe that's why there are more single people in their 30s now.