Elizabeth Day

And I salute and applaud you.

I completely agree with you.

It took me...

I think it definitely took me until 39 to have a relationship that is fully functional, healthy, loving, accepting.

And that's partly because I don't think I knew myself until then.

And I had to be knocked around a bit by life.

And I had to be humbled by some of the things I went through.

And I had to think, oh, I failed here.

Why is that?

And be really honest with myself and

not pretend to be honest which I was doing for a long time yeah but be really stripped back and honest and thank goodness I went through that and thank goodness I went on a hinge date age 39 and met my husband and why do you guys work?

When I first met Justin, and we laugh about it now, but he is a big believer in pacing and appropriate pacing.

And I'd been very used to thinking romance was love bombing and narcissism.

And chaos.

Yeah, and chaos.

Like, let's fly to Rio tomorrow and go and live there.

And I'd be like, oh my God, he loves me so much.

And then with Justin...

Again, because he was a grown-up and had been through lots of life, he was just very considered with the pacing.

We took it, for me, really slowly.