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Elizabeth Goitein

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
132 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

That is the law that prohibits fascism.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

federal armed forces from engaging in law enforcement activities unless expressly authorized by a statute or by the Constitution.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And an inherent constitutional power, by definition, is not an express power.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And the types of activities that the military would be doing in a protective function, such as security patrols, crowd control,

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

riot control, these are all things that the Department of Defense has long recognized constitute law enforcement activities that require an express exception under the Posse Comitatus Act.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

Absolutely.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

The principle...

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

That the military should not act as a domestic police force goes back centuries, all the way to the Magna Carta.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

So even though the Posse Comitatus Act was passed in 1878, the principle that it enshrines is a core American value, and it is reflected in society.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

The allocation of powers between Congress and the president in the Constitution when it regards the military.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And it's really baked into our nation's DNA.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

I think that's the best way to put it.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And I think the reason for it is obvious.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

If a leader can turn the army inward against the people...

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

That can be a very powerful instrument of tyranny and oppression.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And at a minimum, it can shill the exercise of the rights that the people have.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

The fact that people have been calling these stops Kavanaugh stops seems to have gotten to Justice Kavanaugh.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And in a subsequent decision, he, in a footnote, went to great lengths to say that, in fact, race cannot on its own be a basis for law enforcement investigatory activity.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And that appeared to be a way to try to walk back what he had said previously, at least to some extent.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

The Insurrection Act is the primary exception to the Posse Comitatus Act.