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Elizabeth Goitein

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
132 total appearances

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Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And that's the law that normally prohibits federal armed forces from engaging in law enforcement.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

So if he were to invoke the act, that would give him the authority to deploy active duty armed forces or police.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

to federalize National Guard forces and deploy them to quell civil unrest or to execute the law.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And that could include law enforcement activities such as conducting arrests and seizures.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

and searches.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And under the Insurrection Act, the president has broad discretion to decide how many troops need to be deployed and what activities the troops can conduct.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

It is really the biggest gun in the president's domestic deployment arsenal.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

Well, my main fear is less about the specific actions that they will take, but the consequences of militarizing U.S.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

cities and militarizing law enforcement functions.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

I think the immediate effect of deploying them will be to enable and embolden security.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

ICE officers in their own disruptive and illegal conduct.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

But I think there are concerns beyond that, because I think the presence of the military in the numbers that I expect we would see in our cities would be extremely, on the one hand, chilling.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

I think there are a lot of people who would be afraid to

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

just live their lives and go outside and go to restaurants.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And we saw a little of that here in Washington, D.C., when National Guard forces were deployed here.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

But on the other side, I think there will be people for whom this is such an outrage that it really is going to inflame tensions rather than diffusing the situation and that it will escalate matters.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And in that context, one of the things I worry about is the fact that I do think that

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

service members are better trained and more disciplined and more professional than the ICE agents that we've seen in Minneapolis.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

But their training is fundamentally different.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

They are not trained to handle civil unrest situations.