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Elizabeth Jo

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99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Except in some cases, the Supreme Court has said that if the choice is not a true choice, in other words, it's really deemed coercive,

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

that the spending power also can go too far in a way that is similar to the anti-commandeering principle, because you really are forcing the states in a way that they don't want to behave.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And that's essentially why in 2012, the Supreme Court's decision upholding Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, that was the reason that one portion of it was one in which the Supreme Court struck down the way that the ACA expanded funding

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Medicaid, right, because it was offering the states money to expand Medicaid.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

But if they didn't decide to expand it, they would lose all of their current funding as well.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And the court said, that's not a true choice.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

You're really forcing them to do things that they don't want to do.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Yeah.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And then that's why the ACA has been alive ever since.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

The one portion of it was struck down, but the vast majority of the ACA stood up.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

The Supreme Court chooses this pretty violent metaphor of saying, you know, giving or offering money on the condition of is kind of like putting the gun to the head of the states, which is, number one, weird because, you know, it's treating states as if they're people and that they have some independent authority or like control.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

It's actually wrong.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Our representatives, we've made choices.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

A lot of states didn't mind the Medicaid expansion, you know, but that's in a way what you point out to is funny because the Supreme Court has said that the anti-commandeering principle, right, which is that the federal government can't treat the states in particular ways.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

That applies even if the states say, let's say the states want to participate in a regulatory program and they say, sure, regulate us this way.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And the federal government does it.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

The Supreme Court has made it very clear the states can't even consent to it.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

The states can't even get together and say, oh, please commandeer us.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

The court says federalism is so important.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

It doesn't matter if nobody wants it.