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Elizabeth Jo

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99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

So it's actually not just saying, hey, states, you have to respect other states' judgments.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

It's actually a source of federal legislative authority.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

So with DOMA, it becomes legal for states to refuse to recognize otherwise legal same-sex marriages.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And while many states legalized discrimination against same-sex marriages, other states also began to recognize rights.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

So Massachusetts became the first state to legalize same-sex marriage in 2004, and that's 11 years before the Obergefell decision in the Supreme Court.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And many states followed, but many states did not.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And then the Supreme Court did decide the case in 2015.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

There, the Supreme Court said that same-sex couples have a fundamental right to marry in all states.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

OK, well, on the one hand, the Supreme Court case does basically invalidate every state law that refused to recognize same sex marriage.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Yeah.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

After the Obergefell decision, every state has to recognize the right to same sex marriage because of the Supreme Court's decision.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

It's constitutionalized this particular right to marry.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And Obergefell also invalidates DOMA, the federal law.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

That law also is no longer a good law because why?

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

It interferes with a constitutionally protected right to marry.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

But instead of just saying, this is like, well, it's interesting background material, who cares?

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Well, in 2022, the Supreme Court decided to unrecognize the constitutionally protected right to an abortion in Dobbs versus Jackson Women's Health Organization.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And that case overturned the right that was first recognized in Roe in 1973.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And even though abortion might seem to be pretty distinct from marriage, and of course it is a different topic,

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

it was not a different topic for Justice Thomas.