Elizabeth Laime

We don't know them.

And it doesn't matter.

His whole thing is none of it matters, which is like such a great thing.

Yeah.

Because it's funny.

Well, part of his whole thing, and this is not very Christmassy, but is that suffering... Okay, first of all, most of our suffering is created by us in our minds, like internal suffering.

Of course, there are external things that happen, but how we deal with them, you know...

Suffering so often happens because a situation arises.

His example was you're waiting in line for something and you're like, they shouldn't hire someone who does this this slow and blah, blah, blah.

Now you're the victim and you're suffering.

But it's really just your mind and thoughts.

And if you didn't have those mind and thoughts and you just accepted the moment for what it is, you'd be like, okay, I'm waiting.

I'm very hobby curious.

Oh, I thought you were going to say Hobby Lobby reigns queen.

Well, that's technology that Hobby Lobby can't afford to upgrade to.

Oh, like it's a friend.

Oh, a mob thing.

Might be easy to, you know, probably a lot of theft.

Yeah, yeah.

I actually had a moment.