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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Because that's a thing, where schools cannot be, public schools cannot be sued for child sexual abuse.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
So that just changed in Texas, and that needs to be changed in every state.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
I can only tackle so much at once, and it's statute of limitations.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
You can sue the perpetrator, but not the school.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Until now.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
In Texas, you can hold accountable everyone that was involved, including the institution.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
So, like, I went to shoot with this sweet guy named Chandler.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
You and me both.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
Oh, shit.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
But, yeah, I was shooting, and he was like, okay, you've done this before.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
He's like, what do you do?
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And I was like, oh, I hunt pedophiles, not with guns, with the law.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
But changing laws is how we get ahead of this.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And, you know, the Heavens 27, the Camp Safety Acts that have been passed in Texas, we're going to have a ripple effect of that across the country.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
But I want to go back to what you said about this isn't just camps.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
This is youth-serving organizations
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
All of them.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And if I could tell the audience or, you know, you're not asking, but I'm going to just say, three things that could change overnight and make a huge difference, it would be getting rid of NDAs that we've discussed, the statute of limitations so that victims have more time to sue on their own terms and in their own time.
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#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
So the justice system doesn't do more harm on top of the harm that's already occurred.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps
And then, um, insurance companies requiring subject matter expert base, like, best practices in child sexual abuse prevention or child safeguarding in general, all hazard.