Elizabeth Phillips

Wow.

And so I call her, and she was like, this is ridiculous.

I'm going to get you on a Zoom call with the head of investigative reporting for our whole company.

And then they brought in the regional head for USA Today.

And we finally got five articles published in USA Today in the Springfields News Leader, because I told them that if they don't report on this, then they're part of the cover up.

And then they ran five articles.

I was like, yeah, catching up for lost time.

Nice.

Then would be better.

Anyways, but once we got USA Today, that led to a Vice News piece.

We actually won an Emmy on that about the NDAs back in, we won an Emmy in 2022 for that.

Vice TV is not around anymore, but they did a responsible and good job on that story.

We had to have victims with anonymized treatments because they were scared because the NDAs of speaking out.

So they had to do like, you know, the blackout.

treatment for these victims to talk.

Um... And then we did a CBS survivor sit-down.

I hosted it in Dallas, flew victims in from around the country.

Uh, same thing, anonymized treatment.

Everyone was so scared because of these NDAs.

Um... So, after the dispatch articles and David and Nancy put their stamp of credibility on it, David's now at the New York Times, and he's mentioned it in a couple of his opinion pieces, the Kanakuk scandal.