Elizabeth Phillips

And so I called the head of the department, great counseling department.

I'm like, who's the best person in town for complex PTSD?

I don't know if my brother's gonna make it.

And I've got little kids I'm dealing with too.

And he gives me a name, and we go and we meet with that therapist, and I have to sign the intake forms and, like, my own entry.

He's too scared.

He's in a ball in the corner.

We get in the office with the therapist, and he's totally, like, almost catatonic, closed off.

And then I asked this woman, tell Trey about other clients you've had.

And she goes into, well, I've treated MKUltra victims.

And I didn't know what that was.

I was like, what?

And Trey suddenly came to and was like, oh, yeah.

Okay.

Like that earned his trust.

And she had had clients like starting back in the 80s.

who would be in session with her, and they'd hear an ice cream truck and just go into a trance and follow the ice cream truck.

And then go back and forth between, like, being a three-year-old, a 30-year-old, a 15-year-old, you know, like, that multi-personality thing.

So, she's like, I've seen it all.

And, um...