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Elizabeth Phillips

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

So one would think that they would want to be, you know, hold a high standard and be an example of proper hiring practices and, you know, going above and beyond what the state would require with a licensure process.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

But that is just objectively not the case.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

So 50 states don't require even baseline measures like a criminal background check.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

Nine states don't require day camps to be licensed.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

Eight states don't require residential camps to be licensed.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

And in a lot of states, even where they are required to be licensed, if you're faith-based, you're exempt from that licensure process.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

And so that makes me unhappy as a Christian that faith-based is held to a lesser standard.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

It's like, shouldn't Christians be operating with a higher ethical standard and more excellence?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

But a lot of these Christian camps, especially in Missouri, if you're a faith-based camp, you're exempt from the licensure process.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

And that was true in Texas until this year, 2025, sorry.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

Yeah, exactly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

Now, this isn't true of every camp, but parents need to be aware of the regulatory environment with summer camps so they can ask the right questions and decide if they want their children to be stewarded by these people that are oftentimes running for-profit businesses.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

Or if it's a faith-based camp, they're held to no standard in the name of freedom of religion, which I'm all about.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

But when it comes to kids, safety first.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

So...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

No.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

After what my family's been through and after what I've researched, again, I've had to Erin Brockovich all of this.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

Like, no one's doing this work.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

Of course.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#272 Elizabeth Phillips - Inside Camp Kanakuk: One of America’s Darkest Child Summer Camps

Um...