Elizabeth Phillips

And I think there's so many positives to that, right?

It's like, get your kids off their devices and have them meet new friends from other places.

Get out in nature.

All of that is good stuff, right?

But for so long, parents have not asked questions.

And that's why I wanted to talk about this because you started this conversation about what do parents need to know.

And this is so important for parents to know.

That the camp industry is completely under-regulated and some states completely unregulated.

So, 15 states don't even require criminal background checks on summer camp staff.

Okay, that's not even how you catch the bad guys.

That's just a baseline, right?

To make sure you're not hiring people with a record.

Hello.

Yeah, so what I found is unless camps are regulated and there's laws that force that, they don't, because they are saving cost and... That's what I was just... So they are looking for the lowest common denominator to watch your kids.

No.

Yeah.

And a lot of these camps I mentioned earlier are for-profit camps.

And so they see kids as a commodity, right?

They want to recruit as many campers as possible and keep costs as low as possible.

And that's their family business.