Elizabeth Phillips

You know, when you're testifying at a hearing, that's public and anyone can watch it.

And so I started reaching more of the masses that way.

And then I'd get outreach from random people about camps or organized crime within churches and cults.

oftentimes with IRS church status.

We've got to stop giving church status to cults.

And that's an IRS issue on my list of things to discuss with the religion business guys you've had on.

Yeah.

Nathan's doing really good work in the name of Christ to get rid of this corruption in the church.

And I'm actually, I'm gonna be shooting season two with them in a few days.

We're gonna start that.

Yeah.

They also have Zero Chill about child abuse in the name of Jesus.

So that's cool.

I always love that.

But so we figured out that the camp industry nationally in the U.S., it's an American tradition.

I don't know if it was where you grew up, but in my circles, like everyone went to summer camp.

And some of them are just a couple weeks.

Some of them are a month long camp.

And it's a $70 billion industry.

About 26 million people are involved in summer camps every year in the US.