Ella Al-Shamahi

Maybe it's being forced in the lab.

Maybe in nature that wouldn't be happening.

Like... Stratigraphy, just the layers of earth and that kind of sequence of animals that you get in them.

And they are broadly chronological.

And you do see an evolutionary process there.

Yeah.

You just do.

And it's really, really hard to explain.

You know, forgive my language.

You're like the BBC, right?

You can't broadcast swearing.

Oh, nice.

Sorry, I've been cleaning up my language.

No, go for it.

Yeah, like you would be looking at these stratigraphic sequences and it was, you know, forgive my language, but it was a motherfucker because you were just like, right, we haven't gone from complex to simple.

By and large, we go from simple to complex or more complex.

and it was just a consistent pattern and it's very very hard to explain that

So then I was like, OK, theologically, the real, real issue is Adam and Eve.

Right.

So technically speaking, I can believe in evolution as long as it's not Adam and Eve, as long as it's not us.