Ella Al-Shamahi

And that's the thing, I think, in the field, everyone's always going, maybe it's this!

And you just, you know...

Just go with it.

Yeah, it's worth saying that Neanderthals did have similar sized brains to us.

If you correct for size, maybe a teeny bit smaller, but they did have similar sized brains to us.

And we know that they were playing around with, for example, ochre, red ochre, like pigments.

We know that they had shells they had pierced holes into that they were putting pigment on.

So it looks like they were beaded.

They have talons as well from them that seem to have been worn.

Also, we've got Brunekel.

Brunekel is a massive headache to anyone that sees Neanderthals as primitive.

So Brunekel is this one site in France that we had understandably assumed was Homo sapiens because it's basically full of these... Are they stalagmites or stalactites?

Stalagmites or stalactites.

One or the other.

I know what you mean.

Those big things.

And they're basically maned into these concentric circles.

So it's this crazy structure.

And everyone had just always assumed it was, I mean, you know, it looks potentially ritualistic, but it certainly looks creative.

Do you know what I mean?