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And it doesn't seem to have a structural purpose.

It doesn't seem to have been because it's an abode and a home and that kind of thing.

And then they did the dating on it a while back now, maybe 10 years ago.

And they were like, oh, it's really old.

It's over 100,000 years old.

And in Europe, that's not really Homo sapiens.

I mean, it's possible that a Homo sapiens group got to France at that point.

It's absolutely possible.

It's just we've got no evidence for it.

The only evidence at that period is Neanderthals.

So if Neanderthals are... I mean, what are you doing moving around stalagmites, stalactites, making them into these strange circles in a cave?

That seems incredibly creative to a lot of us.

They also, we know now, were doing cave... I mean...

handprints if you want to call that cave art i personally would some people wouldn't call it cave art but i mean you know i don't know any other species that we know of that was putting their hand in pigment and putting it against a wall you don't get chimpanzees doing that don't get hummer heidelbergensis or any of these other species that we know of doing it dennis fins were probably doing it but the others there's no evidence for it that's them and i'm

It was shocking.

Yes.

And I think that for a lot of us is incredibly visual.

So for those of you who didn't watch the series Human, I won't take it personally.

But there is this moment where we're talking about feathers.

And I think what's really interesting is, obviously, you can imagine, as you know, these things you kind of talk to your whole team about them or the production team and the directors and what have you.