Elliot Williams

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443 appearances 4 recordings 4 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard 26 Jun

Elliot Williams’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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And that's a biggie from an 80 year old man whose critics were quite successful in piling on another 80 year old man who was president of the United States a few years ago.
So I just, I was, I've been so struck by the Iceland Greenland flub
What I am genuinely curious about, Jennifer, and I think about this all the time, and let's use Scott as an example, but every person in the Trump ecosystem, and that includes members of Congress, 2026 election and 2028 election,
They have to look to the future at some point.
Yes, all the saber rattling about Donald Trump being president forever in three terms and all that.
They have to look to the future at some point.
At some point, there will be some fight over who the standard bearer of that movement is.
And what are they going to do?
Like, are they going to continue to...
sort of follow a movement that really is modeled around a man, a figurehead, right?
It's not, you know, I don't think if you could take Donald Trump out of MAGA and have this MAGA, somebody corrected me on air for saying that once, you could take, literally, I got a DM, it's MAGA from...
uh i you know i don't think you can pluck donald trump out of maga and just put somebody else in and have the same movement right you can't it's it's a charismatic figure whether you like it right it's a cult around if you want to call it that around one person so one what does it look like in 2026 and two someone has to run for president somebody
And someone can, whether it's JD Vance or Marco Rubio or whoever else, and can purport to be carrying the mantle of MAGA, right?
But what's that going to look like?
And it's going to, like, will it be factually correct?
It's going to be worse.
It's going to be, right?
yeah and look i i repeatedly on air made the argument about uh merrimum domini as he was running saying you know everybody he's actually tapping into a lot of the arguments that donald trump tapped into totally just in different packaging a lot of people that's crazy he's a socialist he's a this he's that and i'm like no there's a venn diagram and you don't get that far front to jump from zora believe me version of donnie to donald trump like there are corners
of folks who are curious about them something you know um you know i know you mentioned my book at the top of the show something that comes up when i interviewed this this guy bernard gets the subway vigilante shooter um in the book and hearing this man from the 1980s this this sort of bigoted white guy and all kinds of stuff but hearing him talk about his politics i i said and i put it in the book
This this guy is at the intersection of RFK, Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, like his views of populists, of the media, of mainstream media, of fat cats and everybody scratching their back for some political game.
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