Ellis Jones

And they're also separated from their family by so much that the parents aren't even going to figure out

Right.

That their kids are being abused.

So they opened up schools in like American Samoa.

I don't know if this guy is related to the one that I was in.

The company that owned the program I was in was called Worldwide Association of Specialty Programs.

It was owned by a Mormon father and son from Utah called J.K.

and Ken K. I don't remember which one's which, but...

But the first guy, the documentary, if people want to do some research on this, it's called Camp Nightmare.

They break down this dude who makes the business of it.

And famous people have been in these schools.

Paris Hilton was in one in Utah.

There's a comedian, Rachel Wolfson.

She was in one.

And then there's another documentary came out called The Program.

That's on Netflix.

And that one is specifically about a school, Ivy Ridge in upstate New York, that is a WASP affiliate.

So there are schools in America, but then there's schools in American Samoa, Mexico, Costa Rica.

And, uh, Jamaica and those schools are the ones that like, if you up at South Carolina or Montana or Ivy Ridge, you get sent to that one.

So we just, I just went straight to that one.