Ellis Jones

The kids are stacked in there like spoons.

There might be six, eight kids in a little room with no AC.

So if you've got a wet sock in your cubby, that's a blatant rule violation and you've got to go to study hall.

You've got to not go to school for the day.

You've got to go to study hall and you've got to write a 5,000-word essay.

on why you left a wet sock in your dorm.

And then the caseworker is going to go, well, another blatant rule violation.

He just got 50 demerits better keep him down here, you know, and you can't, you earn your merit points by, um, they would play those tapes like the, uh, Tony Robbins, self-help style tapes, all those guys, less Brown.

I've heard them all for them all twice.

Cause they repeat after a while.

They only had so many, um,

And then at the end of the night, you've got to write a reflection on what you earned on it.

And then the caseworker grades your reflection and gives you merit points based on that.

But it's stacked in a way where you can never earn enough merit points.

Versus the amount that you're going to lose.

And guards were given quotas to give kids consequences for talking without permission.

These motherfuckers would watch you so closely.

They talk about that in the documentary of how on top of you, like eagle eye they were.

That if you were in line and you looked at a line, maybe you look over here is like the Caribbean Sea and there's a nice sunset and you go like this and look at it.

That's run plans.