Ellyse Perry

And I know that that.

brings absolutely zero peace or joy to what you're doing.

I think it becomes a bit like survivalist.

I think that's the way I've thought about it.

And then...

And then how your ego interacts with others.

And, you know, if you've got two people in that same sort of disposition, it's so ugly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Loggerheads.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If you're the one being like that and someone else is like, you know, completely calm and like devoid of their ego at that point in time, how ugly that makes you feel.

Yes.

Yeah, I totally agree.

And I think when you go to the root of it, it's like all of it is so materialistic that comes from your ego, I think.

It's always about something that's not within.

Well, like when I think about when I'm becoming egotistical, it's all about like outcomes or status or like rewards that have nothing to do with my internal fulfillment or drive or like.

state of being it's all like oh i'm better than them or i need to win this to prove to people that like how great i am or if i say this and prove them wrong that makes me that makes me more attractive yeah yeah so yeah i don't know i don't know how would you describe yours uh pain in the ass um

Yeah.