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The Imperfects

Ellyse Perry - It Starts With Trying

07 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: How did Ellyse Perry become a dual-sport athlete?

0.537 - 6.827 Ryan Shelton

Before we get into the show, you may have heard that the Imperfects are going back on the road for one night only.

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6.867 - 16.723 Hugh van Kylenburg

It's our first ever A Little More Imperfects Live, which is our subscriber show. And guess who's going to be there? Schwarzenegger. Better. Yeah? Dr. Emily.

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16.855 - 24.792 Ryan Shelton

Dr. Emily live answering our questions, your questions. And where is it, Hugh? The Baldwin Cinema.

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24.812 - 34.493 Hugh van Kylenburg

Oh, God. So the event's on August 19th. Tickets will go on sale on June 8th for subscribers only. But if you're a subscriber, you can also enter a very special competition.

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34.473 - 48.13 Ryan Shelton

Yeah, we're giving away the ultimate gold class double pass for one lucky person. So the winner and a friend, if you win this competition, you'll be flown anywhere from Australia or New Zealand, or if you're in Melbourne, we'll send a limo to your door.

49.552 - 62.488 Ryan Shelton

And then you'll be personally ushered to your seats by former Baldwin Cinema employee and also former Australian of the Year, Victoria-only nominee, Hugh Van Kylenburg.

Chapter 2: What lessons did Ellyse learn from her parents about competition?

62.468 - 91.598 Hugh van Kylenburg

where you'll enjoy champagne a chalk top and popcorn and winners will also get a night at a lovely hotel near the Bourne cinema so anyone from Australia and New Zealand could win that yep as long as they're a subscriber and just a heads up I will be taking my job extremely seriously because it's a very serious job you're a professional so to enter the competition go to the show notes on the Patreon episode or if you're an Apple podcast subscriber you'll see the show notes in the latest subscriber only a little more imperfect show and you'll need a code word and how do they get the code word

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91.578 - 93.02 Hugh van Kylenburg

Well, you've got to subscribe, first of all.

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93.12 - 115.545 Ryan Shelton

Subscribe to A Little More Imperfects. The last episode that was on that feed will be a code word at the very start of the episode. Gather that code word, follow the link, enter the competition, and we might be seeing you there, baby. Or adult. You know, it's for all ages. So sign up now at patreon.com forward slash The Imperfects or at Apple Podcasts. Get the code word, follow the link.

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115.685 - 117.467 Ryan Shelton

We might see you there. Cannot wait.

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122.02 - 132.495 Ellyse Perry

I just stood there for a second and I lifted my head and did a full 360 around the stadium and the Gs, like the cauldron kind of thing, and I was just like, oh my God.

Chapter 3: How does Ellyse manage social anxiety in her career?

134.818 - 150.441 Josh van Cuylenburg

For so many Australians, Elyse Perry has represented excellence for such a long time. The youngest player ever to debut for the Australian cricket team and the only person ever to have played for Australia in both football and cricket World Cups, it is an easy assumption to make that Elyse is the best athlete in Australia.

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151.619 - 165.516 Ellyse Perry

And my mum kind of looking at me and being like, are you OK? And I was like, I don't want to do it. And she said to me, like, I really think that if you don't go and try and you don't put yourself on that start line, you'll remember the feeling of that for a long time.

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166.898 - 176.589 Ellyse Perry

It's about going out there and feeling what's possible and what it's like to be a human and have these, like, I guess, insecurities or frailties, but still go and do it anyway.

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178.163 - 182.59 Ryan Shelton

I mean this in the best way, but you don't carry yourself as someone who is like the best.

183.371 - 187.457 Ellyse Perry

I don't stand there going, I'm a gnarly cricket player.

187.818 - 192.645 Unknown

Yeah, no, that definitely comes across. I mean, who uses the word gnarly either?

Chapter 4: What is Ellyse's perspective on success versus trying?

192.665 - 197.472 Unknown

And cricket in the same sense. That's a great pun. G'day, Elyse Perry, gnarly cricket player.

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199.595 - 212.329 Josh van Cuylenburg

We're all imperfect. And on this podcast, I'll be chatting with a variety of interesting people who are willing to make themselves vulnerable by sharing their own struggles and imperfections. I'm Hugh van Kylenburg from The Resilience Project.

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Chapter 5: How does Ellyse handle disappointment in sports?

212.629 - 214.491 Ryan Shelton

And I'm Ryan Shelton from My Mum.

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Chapter 6: What role does ego play in Ellyse's athletic performance?

214.912 - 219.116 Ryan Shelton

And I'm Josh from Hugh's Mum. And this is The Imperfects.

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222.42 - 225.387 Unknown

Whoa! Whoa! I knew you were going to do a cricket joke.

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225.447 - 229.392 Josh van Cuylenburg

I knew it. Oh, it's just a cricket action. Yeah. Pool shot. It was very good.

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229.632 - 236.141 Ryan Shelton

Pool shot. Beautiful. Nice one as well. Am I right in saying, is the reason we're talking about cricket, obviously, unless Perry's here today.

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236.682 - 252.423 Ryan Shelton

Is it true that in the olden days when they would do the broadcast for the cricket on the radio and the wireless, they didn't have a microphone in the field, so you couldn't actually hear the sound of the ball hitting the bat, so they would hit a pencil or something on a wooden block? On the table.

Chapter 7: How does Ellyse practice mindfulness and presence?

252.443 - 252.964 Ryan Shelton

On the table.

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253.024 - 254.938 Hugh van Kylenburg

True. True. Yeah.

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255.479 - 263.571 Ryan Shelton

What will they think of next? So is that AI? Well, okay. So Elyse Perry. Yes.

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263.591 - 282.579 Josh van Cuylenburg

One of the greatest cricketers of all time. Very exciting for so many reasons. So I was texting two different people this morning and I told them both we're having Elyse Perry on the podcast. I realized there are two people whose opinion I respect more than anyone on cricket. The first one was Australian cricket captain Pat Cummins. And the second one was our dad. Really? Yeah.

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282.599 - 306.159 Josh van Cuylenburg

Dad knows his cricket, loves his cricket. And I told him we had a list period and he wrote back a summary of her, basically, which was great. He said- Is that AI? He said, technically correct batter, great competitor, very athletic with extremely good game instincts and a bowling action like Imran Khan. Wow.

306.741 - 323.365 Josh van Cuylenburg

And Pat Cummins said, I think her first half of her career, she was one of the best and fastest bowlers in the world. Then second half, one of the top tier batters. Not many cricketers have ever done that. Always admired her longevity in the sport and always a lovely person. Which I think is a lovely summary. Yeah, very astute.

323.987 - 347.96 Hugh van Kylenburg

Yeah. Lovely summary. So, Elise Perry, in this episode, we speak a bit about the perspective she has on being one of the best players in the world and how she sees cricket as a part of life, not everything in life. She speaks beautifully about her relationship with her dad, which is so nice and refreshing to hear such a positive relationship between a sports star and their parent.

347.98 - 372.105 Hugh van Kylenburg

She also talks about her struggles with social anxiety, which I think is, I found really interesting because we expect so much of sports people, I think, through their work in the media to be so concerned So big and so charismatic and so social, whereas she speaks really beautifully and honestly about, I think, a general struggle with anxiety and social situations, which I thought was refreshing.

372.426 - 374.668 Hugh van Kylenburg

Totally. And you're going to talk afterwards?

Chapter 8: What insights does Ellyse share about her identity beyond sports?

443.942 - 449.291 Unknown

Actually, the question I ask every kid at like a... At a training thing? At a clinic.

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449.311 - 450.393 Josh van Cuylenburg

Over the wicket or around the wicket?

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451.134 - 453.178 Unknown

Right, left-handed, spin, pace.

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453.479 - 457.023 Josh van Cuylenburg

But don't avoid the question. Do you like batting or bowling more?

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457.043 - 468.274 Ellyse Perry

I actually, I like both. Yeah. But I think mainly because it sort of keeps you in the game the whole time, as we might have just mentioned, it goes for a long time. So it's nice to do both.

468.474 - 474.36 Josh van Cuylenburg

Would you rather make a hundred or take a five? I'm really trying to get an answer here.

475.962 - 478.845 Ellyse Perry

Oh, I feel like maybe take a fiver.

478.943 - 498.57 Ryan Shelton

Interesting. Let's think about this for a bit. Let's spend at least five minutes thinking about this and not cut it down. Okay, can we please pump up Elise Perry and explain to everyone who doesn't realise how incredible this woman is?

498.89 - 515.306 Josh van Cuylenburg

So, like, we'll just do a tight shot at Elise while I read this because she's going to be incredibly awkward. It'll be great viewing, so... So here is your buy that we've written. So just so people don't think you've written this, which I don't know why you would have.

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