Elon Musk

uses.

And the same is true, actually, I mean, for Europe.

You could take a small part, you could take...

relatively unpopulated areas of, say, Spain and Sicily, and generate all of the electricity power that Europe needs.

As it is in China.

Well, unfortunately, in the U.S., the tariff barriers for solar are extremely high.

And that makes the economics of deploying solar sort of artificially high because China makes almost all the solar.

What would it take for Europe or the U.S.

to build it commercially, if it's that scale?

Yeah, I think...

Well, I can tell you what we're going to do at SpaceX and Tesla is we're building up large-scale solar.

So the SpaceX and Tesla teams both separately are working to build to 100 gigawatts a year of solar power in the U.S., of manufactured solar power.

And that'll probably take us about three years or something.

But these are pretty big numbers.

And I'd encourage others to do the same.

We obviously don't control the U.S.

tariff policy.

But for other countries, China makes solar cells that are incredibly low cost.

And I think it would be worth doing large-scale solar.

How quickly can they be utilized and be functional and create that abundance that you talked about?