Elsa Chang

How do those investigations fit into what we've been talking about?

So maybe they're shooting themselves in the foot.

Well, there was more this week.

The Department of Justice is investigating Jerome Powell, as we said, the chairman of the Federal Reserve.

And then we saw that the FBI searched the home of a Washington Post journalist.

Carrie, can you just explain what's been happening on those fronts?

Yeah.

Well, Kerry, how are people inside the Justice Department responding to some of this backlash?

And that suggested direction of the investigation does not seem to have gone over well with some of the career prosecutors in the DOJ, right?

Like, what's the latest there?

Well, what I want to know, Domenico, is, I mean, we've seen Trump take an aggressive approach before and courts have stepped in or public sentiment has turned against him.

So I'm wondering, what are you noticing about how Trump is responding in this moment?

That is NPR's Domenico Montanaro and Kerry Johnson.

Thank you to both of you.

My pleasure.

On the campaign trail, here is what President Trump promised.

I am your retribution.

In his first year back in office, President Trump has pulled many different levers of government to pursue revenge against those he sees as having wronged or betrayed him.

We have a stupid person, frankly, at the Fed.

There he is referring to Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell.