Elsa Chang

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So my co-host Mary Louise Kelly has been in Munich this week reporting from that same conference where the German chancellor gave that speech that we just mentioned.

And one of the many big issues that Mary Louise is covering is what to make of this moment in nuclear history.

I'll let her pick up the story from here.

That was Christine Wormuth, former Army Secretary, President and CEO of the Nuclear Threat Initiative.

She was speaking to my co-host, Mary Louise Kelly, at the Munich Security Conference.

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It's Consider This from NPR.

I'm Elsa Chang.

Aw, thank you guys.

Hi Elsa.

So glad to be here.

Okay, so I heard that we are talking about penguins adapting to climate change in the Antarctic today.

Yes.