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Em Gessen

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
462 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

I've never seen Lena throw a tantrum, but I've seen that when it comes to Alan, Lena often got her way.

Serial
The Idiot - Chapter 2

My Aunt Lena didn't want to talk to me for this podcast, though she talked to me about Priscilla quite a bit before Alan's arrest.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

There was one time she asked me for advice.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

How do I get Priscilla out of O's life?

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

I counseled against trying.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

She seemed to take me back.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

Several years after that exchange, Priscilla and O moved to Moscow with Alan.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

And this was when Lena got particularly assertive, especially when it came to O.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

For instance, Priscilla says Lena didn't like the trilingual preschool that she and Alan had chosen for three-year-old O. So one day, Priscilla returned from a short trip to Zimbabwe to find that Alan had taken O out of the preschool and put him in a Russian language one, where he couldn't understand the other kids and Priscilla couldn't communicate with the teachers.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

Priscilla reversed the decision, but she thought I had Lena written all over it.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

Did you feel like Lena was trying to push you out of your life?

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

Things between Priscilla and Alan continued in their familiar cycle of misery.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

And there was also physical violence, which Alan doesn't deny.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

Priscilla had had enough.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

Alan prided himself on solving complicated problems, but listening to Priscilla, I had the impression that she was the one who could be practical under stress.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

She was about to have a baby with a surrogate in a strange country while her marriage was falling apart, and she seemed to just know that she could get through it.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

She was stuck in Moscow, but she didn't have to be stuck with Alan.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

They tried living together apart in a giant apartment.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

That didn't work.

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The Idiot - Chapter 2

Alan started staying with Lena in what used to be our grandmother's apartment.