Emily Bazelon

that Trump saying that he planned to fire Lisa Cook on Truth Social, like that was enough.

And he could assert any reason that he wanted, and that would count as being for cause, and the courts would have no power to review any of it.

That was the position they were taking.

And that seemed so extreme to me that hearing it come out of the mouth of the Solicitor General seemed like a problem, even though I don't think the justices are going to accede to it.

David, what was your sense?

How did you feel coming out of this argument?

Or maybe 8-1.

I don't, Clarence Thomas, I couldn't tell.

But anyway, go ahead.

Sorry.

I do think that the immunity decision set the table.

It emboldened Trump.

He talks about it.

The Solicitor General's office cites it a lot in these kind of expansive ways in claiming more and more power for the president.

So I do think it's like...

underpinning part of what we're seeing.

And I also think you're right that they have, you know, thrown up a bunch of, like, really unlikely Hail Marys.

This case, which would totally undermine the independence of the Fed.

Then there's the challenge to birthright citizenship.

There it is, sitting there in the 14th Amendment, in the Constitution, and they're claiming, no, that's not the law.