Emily Jashinsky

And so, for that to never have...

affected his career.

I mean, there are a lot of crazy fraternity hazing stories.

There's a small minority of stories.

I mean, people have died in these awful rituals, but they're a small, small minority of stories.

It sounds like this story falls into that small, small minority of stories where you have fraternity brothers who are so drunk, they're big football players, and they become sadistic.

And to drag someone around with a hammer claw by their testicles is just, it's not normal behavior.

It's not even like, I got caught up in the moment during frat hazing and was so drunk I was blacked out type of behavior.

It doesn't even fall into that category.

So the fact that he's kind of gotten away with-

Yeah, right, right.

And the fact that he's kind of gotten away with just giving fucking bummer answers to these questions, I actually think that tells us something about – especially, by the way, as a kind of far – like, let's just say Tom Steyer is going in the leftist lane.

Like, he wants to be seen as a leftist.

And then for leftists who are supposedly caring about women, vulnerable people –

and uh toxic masculinity to just bring john hammond to the fold as a you know surrogate without really ever grappling with that seems a little interesting from my perspective because that's a very i mean that's not just like oh it was in my past i had one drunken crazy night that's pretty serious stuff that is deadly serious here's the ad sweet california

Well, I'm contrasting this in my mind with Mark Wahlberg, who a lot more people are familiar with.

Mark Wahlberg, I mean, these are people of similar caliber celebrity.

A lot more people are familiar with Mark Wahlberg's past, and he's had to explain it.

He's had to deal with it.

And you rarely ever, ever hear this Jon Hamm story, like despite how serious the allegations are, you rarely