Emily O'Reilly

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, it just wore out.

And the KS is still a bit of a bit of a puzzle.

But and, you know, there is a lot of his HIV consultant or woman had said to me, well, yes, aging with HIV is something we're just starting to look at.

And I thought, well, actually, people have been looking at this for a while.

But Brian's generation had to grow old or older.

before doctors and scientists could actually see what was happening.

Because as far back as 1996, a scientist had spotted these cells getting older very quickly, but that was under a microscope.

So there's a big difference between cells under a microscope and a living body in front of you, ageing, and what's happening to them.

And this has become...

Since Brian died, and not because he died, but because other people were kind of beginning to experience this, the clinic that he attended, they are now employing a frailty consultant, a geriatrician effectively.

And the pharmaceutical companies are now looking for new drugs for Kaposi's sarcoma because it is emerging again in people of that generation.

I think I almost I felt I had to.

Well, if you were thinking in musical terms, this would be a coda.

You know, the end definitive point to something.

So it's the end point of the last five years.

Two years watching my brother die horribly with nobody able to tell me or tell him what was wrong and whether he would be better.

And then three years of trying to find out why.

And I think I now know why.

And I do see that change.