Emily O'Reilly

So he was 10 years without anything.

Now people have the opportunity and I want to endorse the message of the HSE there.

Go and get...

Because the drugs as well, I mean, have been hugely refined since the 1990s when they first came out.

And it is manageable.

It's still not an easy journey because it's a chronic illness and you will be monitored all the time.

But it is very important that you get tested if you have concerns and that you go on ART.

But Brian's experience, it was not an outlier.

I mean, sometimes I thought it was seen as like, as I said, out of date, you know, from an older time.

But actually it was contemporary in that.

This is what is happening to some, not all, to some of that cohort.

Well, let me put it this way, Brendan.

Brian can't tell it, you know.

And I think that it is important for the sake of that generation of people who are also, as well, hugely psychologically traumatised by what they went through, watching all their friends die.

And, you know, the way that they were treated in the media and perhaps in their own homes where they worked.

And I think...

So something is owed to them.

You know, I'm not wearing a halo, but when Brian turned 60, I gave him a gift of a memoir writing course from Oxford University.

And he'd started to write it.

And in a way, you know, this might be the last chapter of that memoir.