Emily Vernem

You think that everything will stop because that's the only thing that matters is that you're losing somebody very important to you.

And so everything will stop.

But the reality of it is that isn't how life works.

And she said that's true emotionally as well as practically.

So, you know, if you've got a difficult relationship with somebody, with your family member, your parent or whatever, you probably will continue to do that.

And so often a doula or a death walker or a person who's that intermediate can help with that.

But also in the practical sense, if you live a million miles away, if you've got a really busy job, if you've got other caring responsibilities, those things don't stop.

And I think...

We don't like to ever admit that because we are, I think culturally, we're obviously very, we don't like to talk about death at all.

We don't want to admit that it has to fold into everyday life, which in a way it kind of does.

But what was really interesting that Kidman went on to say, because obviously she said this once in an interview and everybody said, what are you talking about?

And so then she was at another event and she was asked about it again.

And she said, I find it really fascinating.

It's really beautiful.

And you have to be a certain personality to be able to do it.

But I found I'm actually that personality.

It's very important to me.

There is always suffering, but there are people there who can help with that, help those final stages, be less painful.

If you feel the connection in your heart, that's lovely.

So that's what I'm exploring.