Emily Witt

And it's an idealistic place and a very sincere place.

And I think you see how those ideals in moments of great drama end up coming out and bringing people out and expressing their politics in the streets.

No, I mean, if this was really about immigration and not about political punishment, as it seems to be, you know, Minneapolis is...

undocumented population is something like 2.2 percent of the state's population i think it's around a hundred thousand people so no there's states where you know if that's the problem you're claiming to fix there's states with much bigger undocumented populations especially relative to the size of force that they've brought if it's political punishment what is what's being punished

Well, you know, the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, was was the vice presidential nominee.

You know, it's a place that, you know, Trump has never won here.

He's come pretty close in the last election.

He lost by about four points.

The state overall is pretty divided politically, but Minneapolis is really, really not.

It's overwhelmingly Democratic.

And, yeah, his political rivals seem to be here.

The head of the DNC comes from Minneapolis.

You know, yeah, Waltz was a national political figure on the left that now, you know, his career seems to be winding down.

Yeah, so since the pandemic, there was a widespread fraud in Minnesota's social benefits network, especially one nonprofit in particular called Feeding Our Future.

And that fraud has been under investigation by federal prosecutors for a couple of years.

They've convicted more than 60 people.

A majority of those people have come from the Somali American community.

The person that prosecutors described as the mastermind of the thing was not a small American.

She was a white lady from Minnesota.

But Trump has made this fraud an immigration issue, even though an overwhelming majority of small Americans all across the country are American citizens, either by naturalization or birth.