The City of Minneapolis vs. Donald Trump
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What is the current situation in Minneapolis regarding federal agents?
This is The New Yorker Radio Hour, a co-production of WNYC Studios and The New Yorker.
Welcome to The New Yorker Radio Hour. I'm David Remnick. It was just over a week ago that Donald Trump announced to the world this. Sometimes you need a dictator. He's made a dictator joke before, but this was no joke. It was a simple statement of how Trump views democracy and the rule of law as hindrances to asserting his own will over the nation and the world. Trump made the dictator remark at the World Economic Forum in Davos as he was threatening to seize Greenland from Denmark and end the post-war order. But back home, we were looking at quite another side of the same coin, an American city, Minneapolis, seemingly in a state of siege. Federal agents were going door to door, demanding identification from people on the street and detaining those who got in their way.
Renee Good, a poet, had already been killed and others had been wounded, but that did nothing to moderate their tactics. Then Alex Preti, a nurse, was shot and killed in a hail of bullets after he came to the aid of a protester. The administration did what, frankly, a dictatorship does. They said that Preti, who had been carrying a licensed firearm that he never brandished, was in fact a terrorist, an assassin, and they justified the killing. We're going to talk about Minneapolis today and what it bodes for this country. Emily Witt and Ruby Kramer have been reporting from the city, and I spoke with them this past week. They're both staff riders for The New Yorker. Emily, you reported on the protests in Los Angeles last summer, and now you're in your hometown of Minneapolis.
How have the ICE strategies changed from L.A. to Chicago to what we're seeing now in Minneapolis?
Well, the biggest difference is just the number of agents relative to the size of the population. So in L.A., I don't know exactly how many people were deployed there, but L.A. is an enormous city, and they were spread out all across L.A. County, which takes hours to cross from one side to the other. So it wasn't the same sense of really agents everywhere in the very heart of the densest part of the metropolis.
And what was the difference in atmosphere, if any?
You know, the protests in Los Angeles were really concentrated around downtown L.A. And the confrontations there were between local law enforcement and demonstrators. And so even though there were people following around ICE agents, you didn't see the same face-to-face confrontation between just ordinary people and federal agents with the same degree of intensity that you're seeing in Minneapolis.
Ruby, you interviewed the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fry, and you spent quite a lot of time with him. He's a very young mayor when he took office, and his first term, of course, was defined by the murder of George Floyd, and now he has this in front of him. That's a lot of trauma for one city. That's a lot of politics for one city, a lot of violence. Let's listen to a bit of your conversation with him.
I mean, I feel potholes. know i i try to make the streets safer you know i put up affordable housing you know yeah we do ribbon cuttings for affordable housing right and we pick up the trash that's what i do that's what we want to do that's that's our goal here our goal is like just would you lay off and like Let us have this comeback we're experiencing.
Right, right.
We will.
Right.
Just give it to, just allow us. We're not even asking for much, you know?
Right.
A mayor who just wants to fill potholes, pick up the trash. And then he's talking about this kind of comeback that he wants to be experiencing. What is he referring to, Ruby?
So he feels as if Minneapolis was in the midst of a renaissance, in his words, before this happened. Crime in nearly every neighborhood in Minneapolis was trending downward. And Fry, when he came into office, was a candidate who... had a passion for housing. Housing was his biggest issue. And as you said, his first term became defined by something completely different, issues of racial justice, police reform.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the current situation in Minneapolis regarding federal agents?
0:02–9:02
2
How did the murder of George Floyd impact Minneapolis politics?
9:02–11:25
3
What changes have been observed in ICE strategies in Minneapolis?
11:25–17:27
4
What insights did Mayor Jacob Fry share about the city's challenges?
17:27–29:45
5
How do local law enforcement and federal agents interact in Minneapolis?
29:45–33:17
6
What are the consequences of the federal presence on public safety?
33:17–50:52