Emma Grede

And I think I've been planned and purposeful about all of my moves.

I've always thought one step ahead.

Yes.

I totally agree with you because I think that, you know, I grew up, I'm the eldest of four girls and my mom, you know, raised us as a single mom.

And for so many people, that could have felt like hardship.

For me, it felt like this is the baseline of what I can tolerate.

Like, at 10 years old, I could cook a meal for those kids and I could iron all their school shirts and make their packed lunches and just get everybody... Because you were the oldest, you were responsible for taking care of the rest of the kids while your mom was working.

Yeah, my mom was working.

It's like, my mom's the dad, I'm the mom, and we've got three kids together.

That's the dynamic of my family.

And love it or loathe it, but that's the way it is.

But to me, I feel like...

such resilience from a young age and so when I think about where I come from which is this place East London where you had to be so truthful you had to make sure that whatever you said you were going to do there was this like moral baseline of the place that was an expectation of how you should behave and that set me up to be the type of businesswoman that I am and so I do think that I've been coded from a young age and all of these experiences and I think the important thing is that

One million percent.

And I think the important part is that my mindset never saw it as something that was dragging me down.

I was like, oh, I'm just going to stand on all of these things.

Like, I'm a tough girl.

I have a thick skin.

How else can I use that thick skin?

Well, the important thing to know is that two things can be true at the same time.