Emma Grede

And you pick and choose times to lean into your career.

When you've just had a baby, there is no choice.

You have to lean out a little bit because you need to look after yourself.

yourself and your baby and your health.

And then when your kids get out of diapers, you can like lean back into things a little bit and hopefully you're going to have some childcare and you can lean back in a bit more.

But there's just moments and we have to kind of like go with the flow of our life.

And me putting forward anything other than that is also a myth.

And so in the book, I try to be really honest about what I do.

If I have any hacks, then I share them.

I talk a lot about how much help and childcare and everything and everybody that I surround myself with because you just don't ever get all the things at once.

And it's easy to say that.

It's harder to model it outwards.

And that's what I'm trying to do.

I'm trying to be like really honest about what it actually takes and not put the gloss over it because that isn't helpful for other women.

Yes.

And you talk about the rule of thirds.

I use the rule of thirds as like a measure for how I'm doing.

Like I know that if I'm really, really happy a lot of the time, I'm probably not pushing in the direction of my goals and my ambition.

And if things are too difficult, then I'm kind of like a little bit out of whack.

But I like that idea that you shouldn't be happy all the time because that's just not my experience.