Emma Grede

How can I help them?

That's like a red flag to me.

I'm like, you're already out.

It's already over for me and you.

Yeah, and I think that's something that the older you get, that changes, right?

I keep telling everyone I'm 42.

I'm 43.

My husband had to come and stop me the other day.

He's like, I've heard you say it three times today.

You're 43.

So I'm 43 now and I think that part of even this journey that I've just been on writing this book for the last couple of years, like you get close to yourself.

You start to understand so much about who it is that you are.

And so I'm just very interested in understanding other people and what makes them uniquely who they are.

Yeah, I don't want to shy away from that because as a woman in business, I think that often we're kind of trained to kind of like have this almost like performative mindset

soft ambition idea that we're not trying to get something.

I'm like, we're here to make money.

That's the purpose of business.

Like that's okay in that context.

And so I don't like to, I'm a very straightforward person with a very high moral baseline.

You know exactly what I want because I told you, not because I'm trying to hide behind something and then like sneak it around the back.