Emma Grede

And so that loss was just, it was so hard to deal with. And again, you know, it was a very isolating time because it was like COVID. I was on my, like, driving, you know, in gloves and a hazmat suit. You know, it was like the time when we really didn't know. And, you know, and the roads were empty and it was tough.

And so that loss was just, it was so hard to deal with. And again, you know, it was a very isolating time because it was like COVID. I was on my, like, driving, you know, in gloves and a hazmat suit. You know, it was like the time when we really didn't know. And, you know, and the roads were empty and it was tough.

You know, the police would pull you over and I'd be like, I'm going to the IVF clinic, which was like one of the few things that you were allowed to do. to be on the road and driving around for. So it was just very, very difficult. But, you know, I had a happy ending. And so for me, my journey ended in something that I never thought would be a way that I would go.

You know, the police would pull you over and I'd be like, I'm going to the IVF clinic, which was like one of the few things that you were allowed to do. to be on the road and driving around for. So it was just very, very difficult. But, you know, I had a happy ending. And so for me, my journey ended in something that I never thought would be a way that I would go.

But I ended up deciding that I would have a surrogate. And I met an incredible woman. And... She carried my twins, which was the single biggest... thing that anyone can ever do. You're like, what? This is so crazy. And it was amazing.

But I ended up deciding that I would have a surrogate. And I met an incredible woman. And... She carried my twins, which was the single biggest... thing that anyone can ever do. You're like, what? This is so crazy. And it was amazing.

I had such a profound, incredible pregnancy with this amazing, wonderful woman who, beyond what our contractual commitment was, because you hear horror stories, she asked me for nothing. It was a beautiful, amazing partnership. And my twins were born via surrogacy. And that was that.

I had such a profound, incredible pregnancy with this amazing, wonderful woman who, beyond what our contractual commitment was, because you hear horror stories, she asked me for nothing. It was a beautiful, amazing partnership. And my twins were born via surrogacy. And that was that.

No. And, you know, I have to tell you, Stephen, I loved, like, and maybe I approached it more like a bit of a, like, I was very transactional about it.

No. And, you know, I have to tell you, Stephen, I loved, like, and maybe I approached it more like a bit of a, like, I was very transactional about it.

No.

No.

Oh, beyond, beyond, beyond complicated emotions, because you are, you know, I've had pregnancy loss before, before I decided to have children. You know, I've had a complicated, as so many women have, a complicated fertility journey. It was emotions that were I would say too hard to bear. And for somebody who's used to being able to get her way and work towards things being as they should be.

Oh, beyond, beyond, beyond complicated emotions, because you are, you know, I've had pregnancy loss before, before I decided to have children. You know, I've had a complicated, as so many women have, a complicated fertility journey. It was emotions that were I would say too hard to bear. And for somebody who's used to being able to get her way and work towards things being as they should be.

And to me, it's like, The amount of effort I put in directly correlates to the result and there was no such thing in this. You could have all the shots and all the acupuncture and do everything that you're supposed to do, not work out too much, don't go in a sauna, you know, like be an angel, eat all of the right things and still I couldn't, you know, hold on to the pregnancy.

And to me, it's like, The amount of effort I put in directly correlates to the result and there was no such thing in this. You could have all the shots and all the acupuncture and do everything that you're supposed to do, not work out too much, don't go in a sauna, you know, like be an angel, eat all of the right things and still I couldn't, you know, hold on to the pregnancy.

So to me it was just something that I couldn't bear.

So to me it was just something that I couldn't bear.

You know what? I'll tell you, I wish I'd have spoken about it more with all of my friends that had gone through it. And I will tell you this story. I was, a couple of summers ago, you know, I'm often the person people confide in. And I happened to be, I won't say where, I was in this place, very confined, like on a boat. And all of the women were in some type of fertility thing.

You know what? I'll tell you, I wish I'd have spoken about it more with all of my friends that had gone through it. And I will tell you this story. I was, a couple of summers ago, you know, I'm often the person people confide in. And I happened to be, I won't say where, I was in this place, very confined, like on a boat. And all of the women were in some type of fertility thing.