Emma

That's why it's a little confusing.

No, but she would have no reason to.

Absolutely.

Well, and that's a reason why we, um, you know, we were, we weren't hanging out frequently, but I would say we saw each other maybe three times a year.

Um,

And the last time we saw each other, the other mom had made the comment that, you know, she that if her daughter because her daughter was, you know, getting older, too.

And she said, if she asked me who your daughter is, I'm going to tell her.

And so that's when I kind of pulled back because I was like, well, I don't want my daughter to find out because your daughter just says something to her randomly.

And I want her to find out, you know, the way I feel like she should find out from the person she should find out from.

Um, but of course I don't have control over that.

So that, that's what kind of made me pull away from that situation and why we haven't seen each other in a long time because they were getting older and it, it, it just would have been harder to explain, you know, who is this person?

Why are they at my birthday party?

They live in our area.

I'm not sure how to explain that.

I mean, we have a pretty good line of communication now.

It's taken a long time to get there.

And I feel like a huge reason we have been able to get there is because of his wife.

I probably talk to her more than I talk to him.

You know, ideally, I'd love to talk to her, but I don't know if she knows.

So I don't want to I don't want to just say something that big and she doesn't even know.