Emmanuel Macron

And we are supporters of this approach.

And in this world where the rule of law is very often replaced by, I would say, the order of the strongest people,

I really believe it makes sense and it's super attractive.

Because you can gather a lot of people, a lot of countries, a lot of goodwill.

So this is where I really believe that this approach and our partnership is not just meaningful,

but has much more potential than what we see today.

Look, I really believe that the fact that we build this partnership and this trade agreement, this free trade agreement between Europe and India,

is uh obviously due to this period of time where there is increasing skepticism or frustration vis-a-vis the us given the recent attitude and and a lot of europeans now see that india is a

the biggest place where we can build this new partnership.

But I really believe as well that I advocated nine years ago a more sovereign Europe.

I pushed this approach of a strategic autonomy of the Europeans.

Some colleagues did follow me and wanted to cooperate.

Some of those were super skeptical, saying, okay, this is a French idea.

It will never work.

And some of those were still in them.

In the certainty that the relationship with the U.S.

is something which will never change and that this is a geopolitical umbrella and a strong alliance which will always deliver.

I mean, all this approach collapsed.

And not to say that we want to be confrontational with the U.S.

I mean, the more intense the relation could be, the more happy I will be.