Eric Jorgensen

It's very normal when you leave a company for your employers to fund your next company or ask where you're going next.

So I got taught, I didn't know it intuitively, not to birth bridges.

So I kept a lot of them.

Now they've been investors in my stuff.

We've stayed friends for a decade plus.

But then I see this younger generation.

I'm like, man, I wish somebody would have told me if I hadn't learned it this way, that you just want to be really careful the way you exit just about anywhere.

Because that reputation is important.

And at the top, it's so small.

You and I probably know every single one of those guys you've mentioned from the PayPal mafia, right?

And a couple of them live here in Austin.

And if you want something big out of life as a young person, I think there's so much bad stuff

there's so many bad TikToks out there that are like, do you leave?

Fuck them.

You don't owe anybody anything.

And that's a really bad way to make a lot of money in life.

So I love that story.

Yeah.

And he can famously do them on the back of a napkin because he likes to keep it so simple and has such a high trust index.

I want to talk about a different index, which is the idiot index, which I had never heard about before, before reading your book.