Eric Jorgensen

Why do you think he believes that?

And do you think that that mindset for him, like, is that how he motivates his employees too?

Like, does he only find people who already want the thing?

Like if somebody's

Listen to this.

And they're like, one day I want to be a billionaire.

Like if they're young and they're like, I want to be a billionaire one day, I want to be as big as these guys.

What would you tell them they have to do?

What does it take to become a billionaire and an icon?

That's true.

Yeah.

I mean, you have to provide trillions of dollars worth of value in order to get a billion dollars of value to yourself.

Like the equation just mandates a hundred to one ratio at least.

So it's interesting.

What about, you know, one story I loved that was in the book is about why you in some ways never want to burn bridges with your ex-employees, right?

and why if you're thinking about leaving your job or to go to the next thing, you always want to try to keep people of power in your back pocket.

Can you tell that story about PayPal?

Yeah, it's so good.

And Peter Thiel is in charge of Founders Fund, if people don't know.

But I think the part that I think about a lot is I thankfully got lucky in finance.