Eric Jorgenson

It's because Isaacson spent the first 20 years of his career writing, permissionlessly writing biographies of Da Vinci and Einstein, like great figures, but they were historical.

Anybody could have written those.

He didn't have unique special access necessarily.

But by doing that work, he became the person who got that call.

And by doing Steve Jobs' biography, he got the Elon Musk biography.

And so these are permissionless books.

I've spent the first 20 years of my career building permissionless curations of public material.

And I don't know what's going to happen in the second half of my career, but I imagine that it will look like luck.

And it's only because people have been reading my books for 20 years and have a respect for what they have done that I will get opportunities that no other author will have.

I'm very happy to do free work that I assigned myself.

Um, I don't know if I have the same relationship to like free work that somebody else wants me to do for them.

Uh, if it's along my natural curiosity, maybe, but, um, like getting kind of a natural independence is like when you're doing things for their own sake, you do them at a different level.

Um, but if I want to really wanted a job at a company, absolutely.

I feel like I would do a project to get a job.

Sure.

Um,

I mean, Naval is a fan of like doing things for their own sake.

Um, and he has an interesting story.

He tells that I, I think about all the time where he's like the most lucrative year of my career where I created the most value.

I didn't think I was working.