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Eric Schmidt

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

In the audience, you all know open source means open code, open weights means open training data.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

China is competing with open weights and open training data, and the US is largely and majority focused on closed weights, closed data.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

That means that the majority of the world, think of it as the Belt and Road Initiative, are going to use Chinese models and not American models.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

Now, I happen to think the West and democracies are correct.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

And I'd much rather have the proliferation of large language models and that learning be done based on Western values.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

It's not clear.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

You know, Alex Wang's a good friend.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

He's come in.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

He's taken over.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

He's obviously incredibly capable.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

I would not hold...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

I would not say that they're going fully closed, and I think also they got screwed up because the deep seek people, R1, did such a good job, right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

If you look at the reasoning model in deep seek, and in particular their ability to do reinforcement learning forward and back, forward and back, and forward and back, this is a major achievement, and it appears that they're doing it with less precision

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

than numeric precision than the American models.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

As a bit of technical things, there's something called FP64, FP32, FP16.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

The American models are typically using 16-bit precision for their training.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

The Chinese are pushing 8 and now even 4.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

Well, a number of the large companies have said that they want to be leaders in open source as well.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

Sam Altman indicated that the smallest version of the O3 model would be released, I believe, open weights, and they have done so.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America

And he told me anyway that this model is much smaller than 10 to the 26th, it's much easier to train, and it will fit or can fit on your phone.