
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Eric Schmidt on AI, the Battle with China, and the Future of America
24 Sep 2025
(0:00) Introducing Eric Schmidt (1:59) Thoughts on remote work and work-life balance (3:49) Approaching AI: US vs China (8:04) Relativity Space, rockets, drones, defense, and more (17:32) Future role of America, and the decline of the West (21:51) AGI: boom or bust? Thanks to our partners for making this happen! Solana - Solana is the high performance network powering internet capital markets, payments, and crypto applications. Connect with investors, crypto founders, and entrepreneurs at Solana’s global flagship event during Abu Dhabi Finance Week & F1: https://solana.com/breakpoint OKX - The new way to build your crypto portfolio and use it in daily life. We call it the new money app. https://www.okx.com/ Google Cloud - The next generation of unicorns is building on Google Cloud's industry-leading, fully integrated AI stack: infrastructure, platform, models, agents, and data. https://cloud.google.com/ IREN - IREN AI Cloud, powered by NVIDIA GPUs, provides the scale, performance, and reliability to accelerate your AI journey. https://iren.com/ Oracle - Step into the future of enterprise productivity at Oracle AI Experience Live. https://www.oracle.com/artificial-intelligence/data-ai-events/ Circle - The America-based company behind USDC — a fully-reserved, enterprise-grade stablecoin at the core of the emerging internet financial system. https://www.circle.com/ BVNK - Building stablecoin-powered financial infrastructure that helps businesses send, store, and spend value instantly, anywhere in the world. https://www.bvnk.com/ Polymarket: https://www.polymarket.com/ Follow Eric: https://x.com/ericschmidt Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg
Full Episode
I honestly believe that the AI revolution is under-hyped. Now, why is this all important? Eric Schmidt is here. He's the former Google executive chairman and CEO. These agents are going to be really powerful, and they'll start to work together. We're soon going to be able to have computers running on their own, deciding what they want to do.
Now we have the arrival of a new non-human intelligence, which is likely to have better reasoning skills than humans can have.
So if you were emperor of the world for one hour... The most important thing I'd do is make sure that the West wins. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Eric Schmidt.
Good to see you. Good to see you. You're looking svelte, Eric. You're looking svelte. Very nice. Oh, my God, David. Good to see you. David Sachs is here as well.
It's like a reunion of all of our former companies, David.
Why did you quit after all? Yes. My old boss.
What was it like working with young Friedberg? Take us back, Eric.
Can I tell a story? We have to come down to Orange County, and they're like, hey, we're going to take the plane. And it was Eric's plane. We get on the plane, and then he goes up and flies the plane. I'm in the back of the plane by myself. Was it King Air? I'm like, the CEO of Google is flying me down to Orange County. It was incredible. That was my first time actually hanging out with Eric.
It was my Gulfstream. That's right. He was way too smart. Way too smart. Way too smart.
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