Eric Thomas

No, I definitely wasn't in this space.

And what was the space you were in back in the day when you were living –

You know, without the opportunities you have now.

And what was the moment you switched your mindset that allowed you to take different actions to start creating your own opportunities?

And so, yeah, I'm glad you're there because like I said, I don't talk about that anymore.

So it's interesting you just said that because the future you had to have wisdom and kind of speak to the younger you.

This version of you at this age, you know, 20, 10, 20, 30, 40 years later or whatever is speaking to the younger you and saying, wake up, wake up.

Wake up.

Greatness is in you.

Dang, man.

This is fascinating, man.

Was it like an intuition that got you to wake up, or was it like just rock bottom that was like, okay, I can't go any lower in my life.

Now I need to wake up.

Okay, so I always think it's a combination, right?

Wow.

There's a lot of pressure for people to accomplish certain things by certain ages.

But it took you 12 years to graduate college, right?

So you're in your 30s or whatever.

30, absolutely.

And then you're 44 when you got a PhD.