Eric Topol

So is it true he never did the third postulate?

He never fulfilled his own three postulates?

Okay.

Yeah, so at least for cholera, the Koch's third postulate of injecting in animals, reproducing the disease, maybe not was fulfilled.

Okay, that's good.

Now, there's a lot of other players here.

I mean, you know, with Fred Meyer and Charles Lindbergh getting samples in the air from the planes, and Carl Flug, and

before we get to the world, I just want to mention these naysayers like Charles Chapin, Alex Langer, the fact that they said, well, people that were sensitive to pollen, it was just neurosis.

It wasn't the pollen.

I mean, just amazing stuff.

But anyway, the principles of what I got from the book was the wells, the, the, the, um,

husband and wife, very interesting characters who eventually even split up, I guess.

But can you tell us about their contributions?

Because they're really notable when we look back.

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty amazing.

I had never heard of them.

And here they were.

They were prescient.

They did the experience.

They had this infection machine where they could put the animal in and blow in the air.