Eric Topol

And, you know, it was basically like the Koch's third postulate here of inducing the illness.

He wrote a book, William.

He's a, quote, pretty confident fellow.

The book is not for here and now.

It is from now on.

He wasn't a really kind of a soft character.

He was pretty strong, I guess.

Do you think his kind of personality and all the difficulties that he and his wife had contributed to why their legacy was forgotten by most people?

Yeah, I mean, I'm just amazed by it because, you know, it's telling about your legacy in science.

You want to have friends.

You want to be, I think, received well by your colleagues in your community.

And when you're not, you could get buried.

Your work could get buried.

And it kind of was until, for me at least, your book, Airborne.

Now, we go from that time, which is 70, 60, 70 years ago, to fast forward, H1N1.

With Lindsay Marr, Lindsay Marr from Virginia Tech, who in 2009 was already looking back at the Wells work and saying, wait a minute, there's something here, you know, that this doesn't compute kind of thing.

Can you give us a summary about Lindsay?

Of course, we're going to go to 2018, again, all before the pandemic with Lydia.

But let's first talk about Lindsay.

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty incredible because had we listened to her early on in the pandemic and many others that we're going to get into, this wouldn't have gone years of neglect of airborne transmission of COVID.