Eric Topol

Every 200 children get a vaccine.

It saves each one life.

It's amazing statistics, right?

Yeah.

I mean, you know, so we, today there's a, a paper on, uh, tuberculosis, MRNA vaccine.

Um,

We've made big progress with malaria, all these other pathogens that have been going for decades without a vaccine.

So we are in the face of anti-vaccine.

We are seeing the withdrawal of support for mRNA, which has implications well beyond, as you well know, infectious disease for cancer and autoimmune diseases, genome disease.

editing for rare diseases and on and on.

And so we have things that don't make any sense.

They're irrational.

Can you help frame all this?

Well, there's so much to talk about on the mRNA front.

I mean,

I wrote a substack about how this recent paper, extraordinary, that only the mRNA vaccines with people with cancer rev up immunotherapy by stimulating interferon, not seen with the non-mRNA vaccines, so that people that got these shots along the way with COVID who had cancer had a huge benefit that otherwise wouldn't have been realized.

So there's benefits.

But what gets me, Seth, is that

We have sat stagnant.

We know these mRNA vaccines could be better.