Eric Topol

Now, one of the things I want to get to, because this see, believe, create formula is what we have the antithesis of that right now.

We're not seeing anything.

We're denying everything.

And then we can't even get to the believe or create

a plan or try to do something about it if you don't even get to the first part of the formula.

So what are you seeing about the mess that we're in right now?

What comments do you have about that?

I think, first off— I hope so, because it's looking pretty bleak right now, Tom.

Yeah.

Well, you know, you touched on, again, the seeing part of our environmental toxins.

not just air pollution, you mentioned the particulate matter 2.5, but also microplastics, nanoplastics.

We know they are causing harm.

You already have studies in blood vessels, the brain and whatnot.

Reproductive health as well, maybe accounting for part of that issue.

But instead of this movement to try to have a healthier America, we're going in the wrong direction.

And of course, denying even climate change and its intersection with another pandemic is also, you know, part of the story.

So in so many ways, we're going backwards.

And you have provided us, you know, a way forward, which is sensible.

It's pretty simple.

You know, that's what's good about it is, you know, the knowledge to prevent.