Eric Topol

Yeah, no, I mean, he may have taken some,

lessons from Watson, but for the most part, scientists kept to science and they didn't appeal to the public.

And they certainly didn't come up with things that were more to get people interested in their work outside of their microcosm of the science community.

Now, he came to the Salk Institute in 76.

And then it was 94 when this book came out, The Astonishing Analysis.

Yeah.

He worked on science.

He was editing papers to this very last day.

I mean, he had colon cancer diagnosed in 2001 and three years into that diagnosis when he ultimately died, but he was working on science and papers and editing even to his last day.

Is that true?

Yeah, Noel, I mean, it's quite extraordinary.

So we have here the hunter of life secrets and spawning in many ways two huge fields, molecular biology, and then he pivoted over to neuroscience.

And in fact, if you could say the whole AI world of today is really...

the same kind of theme of it's all about these neurons, whether they're human neurons or artificial neurons and networks.

So what he did, the legacy in science of two huge fields that he- Yeah, absolutely.

components interacting that is biologically impossible then that's going to be great you're going to have a fantastic system but it won't tell you about biology and that was what he was always he wanted to link structure and function in a realistic and scientific way yeah no it's phenomenal now i do want to um talk a little bit about odile and michael's family i mean uh she they were married 55 years despite like some might be considered an open marriage but also odile

drew the picture, the graphic, for the Plastic Nature 1953 paper, which was amazing.

And he wrote Michael's son right around the discovery about how this beautiful structure.

I mean, his son Michael was like 12 or something at the time.

That's right, yeah.